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And won consistently, even though no one else could drive his car. Has anyone actually driven a solid diff in a car? SpecE36 is allowed a 25% diff or a welded diff. Consensus is that the welded diff would be insane. I'm wondering if there is a minority report. |
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Mark also had 1500hp. A solid diff helps put the power down. I imagine you can get the rear end to drift a bit with 1500hp... He is also known for an insane amount of trail braking. |
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Peter beat me to it. I'm not sure a normally aspirated M50B25 is going to make anywhere near enough power for a locked diff to make any kind of sense. The only locked diffs you see in motorsports these days seem to be on dragsters and off-road trucks running on loose surfaces. I wonder if anyone runs them on the track? I know most of the old IMSA guys used to run Detroit Lockers and stuff, so there must be something to it in high-HP/massive-torque settings. Seems like it would be a recipe for terminal understeer for guys like us. |
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I was wondering because I am spending a lot of time waiting for my inside rear to touch the ground. Shift-light, shift light, Screech, bog bog, go. It is also irritating to have the rear inside come up mid-corner while you are trying to balance the car with throttle. I guess insane trail braking + power oversteer made it all work. If it was good someone would be using it. I have heard informally that there are spece36 cars with 75% diffs, but it's hard to tell which ones from the outside and I'm not interested in going there. From the point of view of competition in class I'm guessing that the really fast guys aren't cheating, so they are putting up with this too, and I'm getting well and truly smoked fairly. From the point of view of driving a balanced race car, I'm irritated. There was actually less of an issue when we had less sticky tires last year, but the new tires are faster and we can mix it up better with the big boys on their hoosiers, so I'm not going to lobby that we switch to all season general-cooper-no-names in the name of balance. Allowing a better diff wouldn't fly either at this point given that we just switched diffs from 3.91 to 3.15 for unfathomable reasons. Probably I won't run out and buy a welded diff to see if I'm the one guy who can figure out how to use one in a car with sticky tires and no power. |
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johnmdanskin wrote...
I was wondering because I am spending a lot of time waiting for my inside rear to touch the ground. Shift-light, shift light, Screech, bog bog, go. It is also irritating to have the rear inside come up mid-corner while you are trying to balance the car with throttle.As for the diff: do the rules specify a "welded" diff...or just a "locked" diff? If they only say "locked," then maybe you can go with something like a Detroit Locker that only locks under acceleration. If I understand correctly, those diffs free-wheel until power is applied. So turn-in understeer should be less of an issue. |
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Emre wrote...
johnmdanskin wrote...
I was wondering because I am spending a lot of time waiting for my inside rear to touch the ground. Shift-light, shift light, Screech, bog bog, go. It is also irritating to have the rear inside come up mid-corner while you are trying to balance the car with throttle.As for the diff: do the rules specify a "welded" diff...or just a "locked" diff? If they only say "locked," then maybe you can go with something like a Detroit Locker that only locks under acceleration. If I understand correctly, those diffs free-wheel until power is applied. So turn-in understeer should be less of an issue. Car perfection seems to be bugging me more than other people in the class. It might make sense for me to eventually move to a class where there is a little more freedom to spend myself into a smoking crater. I've just been looking at the bmwcca prepared rules. Strangely, prepared is not just "more" than spece36. I'd actually have to put stuff back onto the car and add 140 pounds before experiencing all that freedom. The rules are the rules. |
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