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why do you drive/race what you do?

I've been curious about this since I got interested and involved in DE. Why people choose the car they have? I know for me I've wanted a Porsche for everybit of 25 years. I don't know exactly why, but for the strangest reason when I'm driving it I get a feeling of steeping back in time. The reason I love tracking my car so much is because when I'm out there, it just fits. The way I drive and the dynamics of the car, they just work together. I've had my Carrera for about 41/2 years now and I'd like to think that I'll always have one in my garage for the rest of my life. So to answer my own question, it originally started out as fulfillment to a childhood goal but has become a bond between a man and a machine where the two just seem to work together very well.  Please tell me how/why did you end up with the car you have?

 


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 I drive my Turbo because it's my childhood dream car. My father was into Porsches when I was younger (74 911, 78 911SC, 86 Carrera) so I was programmed at a young age. I highschool I dreamed about a 935 with an interior I could drive on the street (like Count Rossi's 917). What I eventually got is not far off. It looks more like a 934 but makes more power.

The M3 was my winter beater. When the 930 went for the big (1.5 year) restoration the M3 became the track car by defaut. I like it so much I kept on modifying it. It's the complete and total opposite of a 930. It surpassed the 930's lap times quite a while ago.

I also race the M3 for pure economical reasons. It's a modern car and is much more reliable. It's also a blast to drive. You can get away with almost anything. Not so in a 930...


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When I decided that my kids were old enough and set enough for college I decided that it would be OK for me to own a sports car after 16 years of econoboxes and trucks with a max speed of about 65mph (really). I had seen a bmw z3 coupe whiz by once maybe 4 years previously and it somehow lodged itself in my head. I headed down to bmw and bought an mz3 coupe.

At some point I realized that driving like an idiot on the street was idiotic (gift of being over 40) and I started looking around for less idiotic ways to enjoy my car. I tried autocross but 12 minutes of driving in a day was not making it for me (and if I'd been good it would have been 8 minutes in a day). I found hpde and was hooked. Unfortunately I supercharged my m coupe, which I believe lead to the cv joint breaking on the uphill at lime rock which lead to me needing a new car. I

bought a mini GP because I thought it would be easier to drive (it was) and because it was cool. Once I picked up some speed in the mini GP I ran into a problem with HPDEs. No one wants to be passed by a mini. No pointbys. No fun. Time to go racing.

At this point I really stuck with BMW because most of my friends are with the bmw club. If I'd gone off to some scca formula class I'd be blowing off my painstakingly built social network. I could have turned my mini into a race car or bought a mini race car, but as far as I could tell, minis weren't competitive. The new, cost effective class with a future in bmwcca racing was the specE36. I like the driver to driver aspect of a spec class. I didn't really want to be racing wallet to wallet. There is a little further I could take my car to get to weight, but otherwise it is very close to maxed out in class, for a lot less than jp, but way more responsive than a js car.

It was more of a process than a single choice.

For some reason I have a problem with Porsches. It's not that I don't accept their innate superiority. I've ridden in a well driven gt3. Oh my god. The turn in alone was unworldly. I just cheer when I see a bmw blow by a porsche. I especially cheer when I blow by a porsche. It's an underdog thing I think. Maybe I just like having excuses.  

I am tempted by formula cars. I drove one at skip barber and it's fun being outside, 2 inches from the road in a car tight enough so that you aren't trying to time the suspension roll.


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I started driving the car I have (1991 E30 318is) simply because it was the first car I ever owned that had any kind of performance potential. My dad bought the car brand new and gave it to me a couple of years later. I've had it ever since. In the interim, I've owned a few other cars: E30 325iX; E36 323is; and Evo VIII. But I always go back to my old 318 because it's so well-balanced and gives such good feedback.



I started doing driving schools with the BMW club because, well, I had a BMW and it never occurred to me to look anywhere else. Relatively early on, I started instructor training and I've been instructing for a bunch of years now. Even though I've run with just about all the major clubs, I still keep coming back to BMW Club of Canada and BMW CCA events. Like John, that's where my buddies are. I enjoy the camaraderie.


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When I was a kid, my dad's friend had a black 911 (can't remember, but I think it was either mid-80's or a 964)... That started it for me. It had power, looks, and class. It wasn't the typical sports car where they just stuck a big motor into an otherwise unremarkable car, this was the whole package. I have wanted one ever since then. When I was 14 or 15, I saw a red 944 for sale in my town. It wasn't the same class as a 911 obviously, but it was still an impressive and good looking car with that fancy gold crest. Although it was well outside of my price range at the time, I realized that I'd be able to eventually afford such a car. A few years later, Need for Speed: Porsche Unleashed came out and increased my interest in Porsche even more... I must have spent a thousand hours playing that game over the years.

 

In 2002, I got into autocross and road course events with the '97 Acura Integra I had at the time and did that for several years with the intent of eventually club racing it. I turbocharged it in late 2003 and it was keeping up with, if not passing, 911's and Corvettes at track days and Time Trials events. Knowing how much trouble (and cost) it was to build and maintain a car that could do that on the road course gave me even more respect for those other cars that it could now run with. In late 2006, I got a decent raise at work and started looking around for a cage for the Integra (I was going to run it in NASA's HU or PT/SU, or my SCCA region's ITE-U), then Chuck Taylor (who eventually became 944-Spec national director) made a post on our local NASA forum trying to get people interested in racing 944-Spec. I had always wanted a 944, and hadn't realized how cheap they had gotten, especially if you don't care about interior condition. I wasn't thrilled with the speed of the 83-88 NA 944's that I had seen on the track previously, so I hadn't thought too much about getting one as a Time Trials car, but for wheel-to-wheel racing it was perfect... all my competition would have the same power, they handled great, they look good, and the costs were pretty low. Shortly after, I bought a red '83 944 and started building it as a race car. My neighbors sure thought I was nuts when I started ripping the interior out of a shiny red Porsche in my driveway. The realities of racing a 25 year old car can be a little frustrating at times, but once you get the bugs worked out, they can be pretty reliable and tons of fun to race. I still have my eye on 911's though... I really want a fun street car again, and the 993 is my favorite 911, with the 964 being a very close second. Between my financial situation improving as I get older, and the price of those cars lowering a bit, I can finally comfortably afford one. I'm currently trying to tell myself that I should really pay off debt before buying one, but I'm still finding myself checking out the used car listings nearly every day...


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Like Weston Ive always had a fascination with Porsches. When I was 16 I would pull out the paper every day looking for a 944 that I could somehow convince my parents to buy me (yeah right, i got the family minivan instead). Also, much like Weston, later in life I bought an import, (91 240sx) turbocharged it, then realized I would be racing by myself. I learned about 944 spec from Chuck and how awesome of a class it was. Low Budget, good handling, equal performance racing in the car I'd dreamed about in my youth and I would be racing against my friend Weston who just happened to have the same fascination with the car! 944 Spec has been an awesome class with awesome people, I'm glad I made the choice I did.


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johnmdanskin wrote...

bought a mini GP because I thought it would be easier to drive (it was) and because it was cool. Once I picked up some speed in the mini GP I ran into a problem with HPDEs. No one wants to be passed by a mini. No pointbys. No fun. Time to go racing.

Those were some fun events. I still remember multiple occasions in the pouring rain at WGI and you and I were the only cars on the whole track. That's when the Mini was even harder to keep up with.

 

 

 

I race a BMW because I went to see  a pro race when I was 10 and the E36 M3 GTR was the coolest car there by far. Bought one as soon as I could as a daily driver, started doing DEs ASAP, and from then until now is a big expensive blur.


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944s: they are just so cool. Seriously, though, they're a good entry level car, and what I had when I started doing DEs. I'd be willing to take most anything, though. One of the most rewarding cars I've driven on the track was an Exige S. :)

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Wow - what a great read so far. I drive a 1992 Nissan NX1600 - because when I was looking for a car this was the best looking car in my price range (1992 with two little kids) and it had a T-roof. My girls call it a girls' car because they want me to give it to them, but over the past several years I've been building it into a car that handles reasonably well. My rationale initially was "honey, this part is worn out and I've got to replace it" but that long ago lost meaning. I've been doing lapping and hpde's for a few years now and last season did SoloSprint events and got to drive at Calabogie, Mosport etc and actually have some times attached to my laps. One of my kids is also hooked on driving now - so it'll be a few more years likely before I can get a true sports car.

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I've wanted a 911 since I was about 12 or 13 years old. When I was a teenager, my bedroom walls were filled with 911 posters (one of which now hangs in my son's room). I was like that kid in the new Porsche commericals. It wasn't about 'if' I was going to get one, just simply 'when'.

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Those are all some great stories, I appreciate you sharing them. There is one thing that I've found in the track community that I like most is that there are some really oustanding stories. Sometimes if I'm at the gas station refilling the truck and I see a car that can be constued as a track toy I'll casually ask the driver "hey, do you by chance track that thing?" Every now and then I'll get someone that shows interest and I'll share information about how to get involved, where the track is, etc... Seems like the folks that want to get involved really want to participate. And I'll get the occasional wife to say to their husband "honey, you've always wanted to do something like that, you should check it out" and that's cool to hear.

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I always lusted after BMWs and Porsches. At first my driving experience started it the totally wrong direction. I got a 1994 Land Rover Discovery. After quickly learning never to buy an English car again (except for modern Minis) I got a 1997 Chevy Tahoe. At least it was reliable and back then I lived in NJ and gas was 1$/Gallon. But I always wanted a BMW so when the X5 appeared I got that. Why did I keep buying SUVs? Well, nobody was around to tell me how stupid that was. My parents and their friends kept saying you need a 4wd tank to survive winter in NJ and even more so in Montreal. How I wish I would have known better. For the price of that stupid Land Rover I could have had a fully loaded 328i at that time. College would have been so much more fun.

But I always liked motorsports and sports cars. So I finally figured out to buy an E46 M3. I was so exited to get it. Finally BMW sent an M3 with the real M3 motor to North America. I happily drove it for a year and found out about the BMW club and that they do track events. September 2003 was my first one. Hooked ever since. Averaged 25 days a year until last year. The only regret I have is that I did not start all this about 6 years earlier.

But how did I end up driving a GT3? I kept finding that trying to keep my M3 both streetable and good on the track was always a compromise and any real progress would require major surgery on the car. The GT3 is as close to a track ready street car as you can get. Even if something needs changing it's not too major and easy enough to do. I also found better support locally for running a Porsche. Having the mechanic learn new things with your car is not fun for me. I like my car to be "routine" for the mechanic working on it and not a new discovery. If I was in Boston or Toronto I probably could have kept modifying the BMW. I also wanted to learn to drive a 911.

And the most important reason why I got the GT3 is so that nobody can tell me that I am not a good pilot. After all, I am a Porsche driver now. ;)


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Here is my story

Back in 2002 I was looking for an economical car. The best car that fit my price range was the Dodge Neon. After doing some research I found out that these cars had a few minor problems that seemed easy to fix however the big upside was the good amount of aftermarket parts you could have got from the dealer since Neons were still popular in SCCA racing. I went ahead and bought a 1995 Sport Sedan, Single Cam engine, 5sp trans, rear disc brakes and rear sway bar. I was happy and the only one in high school that had a car..  However being in high school mean't living the life of a student... working a part time job didn't leave me with lots of money to spend on the car. I bought some used Konis with new Mopar High Rate springs, falken azenis and fixed the ills I was having with the car with the money I would make on weekends. Being able to do all the work myself was also a big help.

However I kept dreaming about one day building a cool Neon like those people on the internet....

During the summer of 03 my uncle invited me to some Muscle Car Club track day... I went and fell in love with the track and loved the handling of my car.. Ok I had no idea what I was doing.. but still it was fun. With my 95 Neon getting on in age I bought myself a 1998 Sedan in Sept of 03.. I started buying parts for it right away to install over the winter, the end result was fantastic.  I started going to auto x events on a weekly basis during the summer of 2004 since this is what most people were doing with Neons.  That summer I learn't the basics of car handling.

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Summer of 05, I went to a few local lapping days but the car stayed the same. I had started a new job and didn't have much time to go to the track. During this time I realized that having a reliable daily driver was important so in November of 05 I bought a 2005 Accent GT...

With my Neon out of commisson I decided to start off fresh with the Accent. I wanted to drive my underpowered car fast. I kept my car stock and went to a few HPDEs with BMW Club Of Quebec,. I had a blast at these events and made great friends, I even started going to the track on a weekly basis with a local lapping club... but once again I got the mod bug.... I changed the shocks/springs, rear sway bar and Rcomps on my Accent. Which some dubbed the Traccent!  However I was getting tierd of driving an underpowered car that felt disconnected from the road even with the mods. Sure it was fun passing Audi's at Calabogie but I knew that if something happened I'd be out of daily driver...

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I kept pondering what I should get... the choice was obvious to me... Another Neon! There is a saying in the Neon community... Once you get one Neon, more will follow.

So I started the search. After about 8 months of searching I finally found my project car. A 1998 Neon Coupe, DOHC and 5sp... with low miles. I admit that I might have gone a tad overboard with my parts selection :p

The end result... A dream come true, I finally had a car like those people on the Internet.
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My story is really never ending...








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Because it's cheap on gas, tires and brakes and it goes really, really fast!! I used to drive a Porsche on the track but after a while I just couldn't understand why I was driving a 3000lb car, that could carry four , when I rarely took a passenger and never had anybody in the back seat. Can't find any track time for open wheelers so I ended up a D sports racer. Not to mention 13000 rpm sounds sweet.

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I picked up the Z06 in October, 2000, prior to anyone really knowing that they had started making a Corvette that could actually *turn*. I took it to my first DE back in April, 2001 before I had even broken the engine in fully, namely because I came to the quick realization that I better find a good, safe place to drive the beast because I knew was going to kill myself in it on the street. I haven't looked back; it turned out to be an amazing track car, needing nothing more than pads and rubber, and ya gotta love the "torque everywhere" band in those pushrod V8 engines! Out of the box, for sure one of the best bangs for your buck for the track, and things like $26 (now $40...) rotors at NAPA, it made DE events a touch more affordable and easier to justify to the Boss.

I drove the hell out of it for the first 7 years, doing 30-40 DE days a season in it, before I broke down and did my first engine modification: I replaced the spark plugs. This past summer I picked up a crate LS6 (ie: stock) motor and dropped it in the car in the fall so I have something fresh to drive this spring, and Phil Strudwick is getting the original motor tomorrow to refresh for me, and to see what kind of power we can get out of it.

Now the car has a cage, some aero additions, and a T1 race suspension on it, so I'm hoping to try out some of the CASC regional events this summer.


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I bought my car, a VW Jetta 7 years ago upon a friend's recommendation (everyone else in the enthusiast group moved on to something else one by one - STI, RX-8, TT...) I seem to be the odd one out with only minor problems happened to the car - so I'm driving it till this day with a few handling and power mods.

Been to the track only a handful of times. 1/4 mile once, autox twice and to a performance driving school track day - that was 3 years ago. It seems once a man owns a house, the house will take priority over the car in terms of maintenance and modifications.

Nice to meet you all!

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My cars, there have been several are all based on timing available and cheap price. I do some mods, get a good woking package then pass them on to someone else. the last 6 years it has been with stockcars for oval racing. My currnet car is the one pictured, 1991 240sx. attended a Solosprint event last year, had a great time, plan on at least 2 this year, plus track days

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Michael wrote...
...[snip]... It seems once a man owns a house, the house will take priority over the car in terms of maintenance and modifications.

Nice to meet you all!

You can live in your car but you can't race your house. Get a grip on your priorities dude!  


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It seems once a man own a race car, the size and configuration of the garage takes precedence over any issue relating to the house.

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imp wrote...
I picked up the Z06 in October, 2000, [snip]



(I can't get this out of the imp quote, but this isn't imp. this is john.)
 
I heard on NPR that photos of scantily clad women and photos of hand tools excite the same portions of the male brain. I'm sure that cars are in the same category, and that black corvette with that wing is hot.

(There is some other portion of the male brain?)

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